Chevrolet Traverse And GMC Timing Chains Replacement

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  1. says:

    i just took my 2012 traverse to the dealer with a check engine light on . well it was the timeing chain. i had a power train warranty and know they tell me that its not covered because they are saying i did’nt change my oil correctly. then the rep continues to say that my traverse will use 1 quart of oil every 2000 miles. so if you dont change your oil but every 5000 you will be 2/12 quarts low before you have to change it. we were not notiifed at the time we bought the car and know they want to replace the engine for $7100.00 which i dont have so who is tio blame .beware if you have a traverse because this will happen to you and if anyone can help me i would appreciate it

  2. Texas Dean says:

    Watch out if you’re buying a used GMC Acadia. I bought a 2007 Acadia, which checked out clean on CarFax and showed only routine repair in GM dealership computers. Within a few months, a warning light comes on and it shows a timing chain problem. Dealership says GM has known about this defect in their design for years, putting a ‘special policy’ in place to pay for repairs before 120,000 miles. Since I bought the car used, I never heard a word about this. GM sent a bunch of propaganda, as they do with all car buyers but never told me the car would likely quit running soon because of the defect they knew about. Now the car has stopped running, with dealerships saying repair will cost north of $3,000. I call GM’s customer service brigade and supervisor says the “final answer” is that GM won’t pay a dime to repair this problem they caused. They’re fine for all of us to buy their cars, with all the defects they are keeping secret, and then leave us stranded. Bottom line: They issued a ‘special policy’ to repair it, but didn’t tell this owner. Then, when the car quits after an arbitrary 120,000 mile mark, they’re fine to have us making monthly payments for cars that don’t run. They claim it’s like exceeding a warranty period. But shouldn’t it be different if it’s a defect that they covered up? I feel a lawsuit coming on, just to force GM to do the right thing.

  3. says:

    My check engine light came on about 95K. I now have 110K. will GM still replace this for me.

  4. Dan z says:

    Chevy can’t find problem with 2010 Chevy traverse radio no sound

  5. Susie says:

    Is there a recall concerning timing chains for a 2010 Traverse?

    • Anonymous says:

      There should be cause my 2010 traverse is in the shop right now and needs a new timing chain. Running around $3K. This is horrible to buy a truck within a year and need all this work. I took it in 6 months ago because of the steering wheel. Urgg

  6. Jay says:

    If the timining chain brakes on the Chevy traverse will the cams hit the values in the motor or is this the type of car that don’t hit the values .?

  7. Heather says:

    Would anyone know? I have a check engine light code p000d. have anything to do with the selenoid, that is what the dealer is telling me but when I look online it sates it is related to the chiming chain. my car is a 2009 Saturn Outlook

  8. Markquill suggs says:

    I have Chevy traverse 2010. I bought this truck with 24 thousand miles on it, by the second month. My check engine light was piping on and going off. I took in, they check it said it was nothing. But auto zone gave me tickets when they check it. Codes p8000. Camshaft/timing chains. Well they checked out. Light went off. I drove it . A year later light came back on. Bobbrockman fixed it ,August 2013. Keep the vehicle for 5 days. A year and one month October 2014. The light came back on, and now they want me to pay for it!……2,200 . So I called the better business bureau. Filed a case with them. I had to pay 1000, down before they start on my vehicle, then they comes with this ! About lack of oil changes is the reason I need a new Timing chains. Lack of maintenance cause these. I had proof of my oil I filed a case because they called me and said I still owe thousand and fourty dollars to get it fixed. I pick it up and now my air conditioning is out. Bobbrockman dealer ship is rip off, along with these General Motors. I have replaced two timing chains before 100k miles., powersteerng system, wheel bearings, rotors and air conditioning system looks like tomorrow. I will be going to the news telling my story and how the dealer got over on me. Iam not paying another dime on this vehicle it was a piece of crap! From the beginning.

    • Texas Dean says:

      I’m with you. Bought my 2007 GMC Acadia used and after topping 120,000 miles, it quit running entirely. Dealership said GM has been aware of this timing chain defect in design since at least 2012. They quietly issued a “special policy” to pay for repairs under 120,000 miles. But since I had already topped this arbitrary 120,000 mile mark, GM says it won’t pay a dime to fix this problem. They’d rather we all make payments for cars that don’t run. I’ll continue to fight this and keep you posted. GM claims it’s like exceeding a warranty period, but that’s a cop out. How can you exceed a ‘warranty period’ or a ‘special policy’ period they never told you about? If they knew it was poorly designed and would stop running, shouldn’t they fix it?

  9. Crystal says:

    I just took my 2010 Acadia in for this at 66,000 miles, 5 years 22 days after purchase. Check engine light would come on for a day them go away for several days. Did this for 2 months. I did as the manual suggested, tried new tank of gas, figured it was an emissions problem as the manual suggests; only flashing check engine light are serious. When the light finally stayed on for more than a week I took it in. It never ran rough, not once. I’m a little mad that the warranty was up less than 30 days ago and I’m stuck footing the entire $2600 bill now.

    • Jamie says:

      I too have a 2010 Acadia with 83,000 miles on it. Timing chains are stretched and need repairing, to the tune of $2,000+, and that’s hoping that nothing else is wrong with the vehicle. I’m totally disappointed that GMC knows that this is an issue with the vehicles and they aren’t doing anything to help out the consumers. This vehicle was $48,000 brand new and I’m running into this issue. Wow.

  10. OklahomaTraverse says:

    I have a 2009 Traverse w/ 101k miles, and change the oil religiously. Last weekend I had “Oil Pressure Low Stop Engine” appear on my screen while I was out of town. I stopped at a Jiffy Lube and had the oil changed, even though the tech said that the oil was fine, that it was probably an error with the sensor. I brought the car to the dealership yesterday where the service manager told me that he had to pull the engine to replace the timing chain, but he was sure it would be covered under the “Extended Protection” that GM offers on the timing chains (120k). Now, he’s saying that I need a new engine ($10K) because the engine is “all gummed up” due to a lack of changing the oil. I told him that I changed the oil all the time, but he said that the last record he has was Sept 2012, which is the last time I let the dealer service the car. I have it changed at separate oil change facility in town. He won’t do the warranty work now because he says he cannot in good conscience charge GM for something that could have been avoided by changing the oil. He said he’d put it back together (without the new timing chain) and let me drive it home for $900.00, but that’s 100% labor, and he wouldn’t guarantee it’d make it out of the parking lot. I have the place where I get my oil changed pulling my records right now, but does anyone have experience in fighting this? I asked if I got proof I changed the oil, if he’d do the warranty work, but he said that just because the oil change place charged me for the work, doesn’t mean it was actually done. HELP!!!

    • Shelley from Michigan says:

      I have a 2008 Acadia. We have changed the oil regiliously. We were out of town last week about 174 mile from home. Our car broke down in Ohio and is still there, it is costing me 35.00 a day for a rental. Luckly we were not on the road when this happened. Right now they have the recall for the timing chains on the 2007/2009 models but not the 2008. We need a new engine and it is going to cost us 6300.00 and we do not have the money. We owe 9000.00 on our vechile and were the first owners. We have been calling GM for the last 3 years about the sludge that has been trapped between the throttle body and the air filter which has caused our car to power down in not the best places. We have been now fighting for the last week for them to replace the engine they are telling my husband and myself that they will give us 1800.00 because we have 118,000 miles on the car. We did not purchase and extended warrenty, but were told that if we did they would cover because there is a TSP. Meaning that under coverage they would change. We spoke to a GM dealer in our town and he told us that the 3.6 L engines were garbage. The dealer that we bought the car from is denying that they new the problem back in november when we took the car in for the recall on the powersteering pump. When then they informed us that they Rack and Pion was also bad and it would cost 900.00 to fix. I called GM again and they were really not willing to help. We also have had problem with our radio and when unhooking the speacker in the rear doors we had to drain water out of them. They seem not to care about that either. Apparently because my family of 6 have not been seriously injured our killed. They do not want to help. I have spoke to a Margaret, Mike and now I am waiting for NITI, Mikes supervior to call me back. Apparently there was a panel that meet and they deciede that 1800.00 was fair. I will be taking this to the TV stations and all of the local media I can find. However, I need everyones help!!!! I need you to call and complain as well…… I will be writing a certified letter to the CEO with pictures of the engine. My father in law who has worked for GM for 30 + years is absoultely humiliated and can not believe the company that he has devoted his life to is producing junk vechiles. His 2010 Equinox has the same recall… PLEASE CALL AND COMPLAIN!!!!!!

      • Holly says:

        I also have a 2008 Acadia. Mine died yesterday while sitting in a drive thru line. It made a weird shuttering noise and that was it. Had is towed to my mechanic who says a need a new engine. Of course, my warranty is expired because it’s a 5 year/100,000 mile and although I only have 82,000 on the car, it is 7 years old.

      • Anonymous says:

        Our 2008 enclave timing chain broke at 140 000 km, destroyed engine, GM no help at all, new engine ect. $10 000 repair. Told us our car was not included in any timing chain recall/repair!

      • Patty says:

        so my bitch, the last 2 years as i’ve surfed the internet searching on ‘engine light / p codes for 2008 acadias’ , finding all kinds of long posts from people with the same issues (like here) , is – WHEN DOES GM FINALLY STEP UP, AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ?

  11. Alpine 500 says:

    Does anyone have actual info on extension of warranty? Bulletin number etc ??
    08 with oil changes per design just let dealer does protest to much!!

  12. Ant says:

    I have 2008 GMC Acadia with 89,000 miles. GMC told me that my warranties are all expired but I have a special coverage 13091 which is something to do with the water pump. It looks like I have a crack in my timing change cover. Is it possible that the water pump could of helped with the crack in the water pump?

  13. Anonymous says:

    you do not have to remove the engine to replace the timing chains. have done multiple with engine in car.

  14. April in Alabama says:

    2010 Traverse 97k miles.. engine code p00017 Timing Chain. Dropped it off at dealer, it is covered under the 100k power train warranty. Engine and Transmission had to be dropped to replace it. Mechanic told me the tensioner is what was actually wrong with it. Kept car for nearly 2 weeks. Just got it back and now there are other issues, that I didnt have before. 2 different noises coming from engine. Mechanic said “had to unhook all power steering lines, thats just air in the line, it will clear up. The other noise we dont know, if it dont all clear up in a few days, bring it back”.

  15. Darren says:

    I have a 09 acadia that just had the timing chain replaced, now my A/C doesn’t work ( it worked before i brought it in for the timing chain) The dealership is telling me it is the evaporator and is saying that i need to pay for the repair ($2300). I’m of the opinion that they did something to the A/C system when they removed the engine/trans. Any thoughts?

  16. Harry says:

    Wow just got my codes read it was talking about two cam sensor being out of time ECM on the first bank and also a transmission code about tranney fluids pressure,sound like what I got going on.

  17. Mario says:

    Would you happen to have any faimly photo’s that were taken in Sterling that you would be willing to share? I live in Sterling and am interested in the history. Any photo’s that also include buildings are of interest.I remember your Aunt Francis and Uncle Dugan and Butch, they lived down the road from me when I was growing up.

  18. bmcc says:

    Just had timing chains replaced on Saturn Outlook at 86K. Just one question. Does the dealership repair what is causing pre-mature wear or will I be footing the bill for next repair at 190k?

  19. Watson says:

    I want to know the cost to replace timing chain on 2010 Traverse

  20. Dwayne F says:

    Where is the camshaft position sensor located on the 2009 traverse 3.6l engine. I can not find it anywhere on the web?

    • Car mechanic says:

      There are several- one for each camshaft. They are located on the front of the engine, they are accessed thought the timing cover.

  21. Tim says:

    I have a 2009 Traverse that we bought in June 2013 with 96000 miles on it. Had the timing chain and wave plates repaired at about 97000 miles (so just a month after we bought it). Jan 2014 take it in to local dealership for oil change, three months 3500 miles later took back for another oil change and 3q low. Oil consumption test and now burning close to 3q in 3000 miles. Took it back to dealership and found out that need pistons replaced. Looking at the vehicle repair history found that both the wave plates and the timing chain replaced once before. I am now at 113000 miles and GM is willing to cover half of the $3000 repair. So frustrated with this traverse. Any recommendations.

  22. Casey says:

    Anyone have any issues with the 2013 Chevy Traverse? Timing Chain issues?

  23. Eric says:

    Just dropped our 2007 Acadia off at the dealership today. They have replaced the timing chain 3 times already with the last time being exactly 3 months ago. Vehicle only has 65,000 miles on it. For the last install the cam sensors had to be replaced also. Dealership charged us $500 and GM picked up the rest. I am waiting to hear what they are going to do this time since it’s only been 3 months.

  24. Roderick says:

    We dropped off vehicle at a local dealer on 3/28/14 for the issue mentioned in article above for timing change issue. They looked up our vehicle using VIN #. We found out that it was covered under the 100,000 mile warranty along with water pump. We picked up vehicle today 4/1/14

  25. Roderick says:

    My wife and I purchased a 2009 Chevy Traverse which roughly
    had 58,000 miles. We now have 81,000 miles which is giving
    codes P0008 and P0017. We are the second owners. Wondering if issue will be covered under 100,000 mile warranty.

  26. Keith says:

    I had problems with codes pointing to stretched timing chains. I removed the engine and valve covers. I used a socket to rotate the engine clockwise by hand. One of the intake cam shafts would stop turning for a moment while I was still rotating the engine, then it would speed up again to the place it should be if it didn’t stop turning. I am at this point now and I am going to change out the actuator on the front of the cam shaft as I suspect it is causing the codes and not the chains.

  27. disappointed chevy customer says:

    My 2010 Chevy Traverse with 61k miles on it is throwing the p0008 code. The thing that is confusing is that the light will only be on at certain times. In the morning when I first start up the car there is no check engine light on. After driving it some miles the light comes on again and then if it sits over night the light will be back off in the morning – a friend who is a mechanic is telling me this is unusual.
    At any rate I am blown away that a car that has had regular oil changes and been taken care of may need a timing belt at 61k miles. I need to dig out warrantly paperwork but I know I bought the car with about 20k miles on it so I am not sure what the hell my warranty is. I am really scared after reading how big of a job this is and quite disappointed with Chevy that they have not done a recall of cars if this is a persistent problem. This is my first and LAST chevy if I end up paying for this.

    • 2007 Outlook Engine blown says:

      There is a GM recall on the timing chain

    • Used to my trucks says:

      My wife’s 2010 traverse has 62,000 on it and she just told me check engine light came on yesterday, and oil life at 10%. I change the oil in my vehicles religiously no more than 5k, always using synthetic. She commutes to and from work with it and I rarely ever get in the car. That being said, I looked at the mileage this morning and almost fell out! Just changed the oil in February at 52,000 and the oil indicator let it go 10k to 10% ? I had her take one of my trucks to work, when I drained the oil it appeared to have about 2qrts in it, sickening! Took it up to AutoZone this evening, have the p0008 & p0017 codes. Not surprised timing belt stretch when a car is over half empty in oil and indicator lets it go 10k. Taking to dealer tomorrow, they replaced water pump under warranty 3 months ago ( was overheating on her ) and performed all recalls supposedly. Just got new recall letter for seatbelts anyway, will see how they treat this issue.

  28. Jada says:

    I have a 2009 Traverse and this morning is seemed to jump like jumping into gear and made a winding noise then soon after the tracking light came on and stayed on?

  29. says:

    Just got my 2009 out of the repair shop with timing belt failure. Supposedly, some pin from some pump was missing. Can someone share more about their experience with the powertrain warranty? What is the process?

    By the way, now the Travey is shaking as if it does not have a suspension. I’ve got to take it back to the shop.

  30. randy singleton says:

    the timing chain can be replaced without removing the engine and trans on outlook. I did

  31. CMH says:

    Just had the check engine light come on for the Camshaft correlation (Thanks OnStar)in my 2009 Traverse. Hoping whatever the problem is, it will be covered under warranty. The dealership just told me Chevy extended the timing chain warranty to 120,000 or June 2019. Obviously they know there is a problem. I just hope it’s my problem so it’s covered!

  32. tom says:

    I just paid over $200 to have 2 cam sensors replaced in my 2009 Saturn, unaware of this timing belt issue. needless to say the problem was not corrected and now have an appointment with a dealer to correct it. Do they replace the cam sensors when doing this repair? I wuold like to get my money back at least for the parts.

    • ProTech says:

      No, the sensors are not replaced during the timing chain repairs. The codes in the computer pointed to the cam sensors, but that is never the problem. They mis-diagnosed the problem and it did not fix it, so you should get a full refund.

      • tom says:

        It was not the dealer but a garage mechanic that initially said it was the sensors (diagnosed by computer) and did the work. I think someone should be sending a letter letting us know that if the engine light comes on we should take it directly to a dealer since this is an issue. I want to be reimbursed for the work by the company. I plan on talking to the dealer directly regarding this…What a waste of time and money!

  33. Linda says:

    I had my timing chain replaced yesterday on my 2007 Acadia. It doesn’t seem to be driving as smoothly as before. It almost feels as if it is jumping up and down as I am driving. It feels as if there is a problem now with the shocks, if there are any on this car. What could it be?

    • Josh says:

      To replace the timing chains, the engine and frame were removed. It is possible they left something loose or the front end alignment is off. Take it back ton them right away.

  34. Rebecca says:

    I have an 08 Acadia (not under warranty) whose check engine light came on recently and it had same codes mentioned for timing chain. Before I could get appointment to take it in, it started making horrible sound and died after coming to a stop. It will start up just makes loud clattering noise. Been in garage since waiting on tax return to have fixed. Does it sound like timing chain broke? If so what kind of damage am I looking at? I really love my car and have had no other problems so I hope a new motor isn’t necessary :(

    • ProTech says:

      Yes, it does sound like either the timing chain or a chain tensioner broke. If this happened, the engine needs to come out and taken apart. There is a possibility that the valves may have hit the pistons. That would require new cylinder heads. At the least, the chain and tensioners need to be replaced.

  35. Denise says:

    I have another question about 2012 Chevy Traverses (not timing chains related, I hope!). We have noticed that when initially driving the car after a night’s rest, about a block from the house there are two noises maybe 3-5 seconds apart coming from under the hood….maybe somewhere in the engine, like something engaging. There is also a definite slight, feel to engaging (similar to shifting but more noticeable). Our son has a 2012 Traverse and experiences the same “happening”. Do you know what this might be? Thank you!

    • James says:

      Not a timing chain problem. Could be the A/C clutch engage/disengage. It is still under warranty, so take it in to get looked at.

  36. XZ550 says:

    Thanks so much for posting this info. I’m having this done to our ’07 Outlook under warranty. Our dealer is recommending that they replace the actuators at the same time since they will already have the engine apart. The additional charge to replacing the actuators is $1200. Have you seen issues with the actuators as well or is it just the timing chain? Should I get this done?

    Thanks again.

    • ProTech says:

      If this repair is under warranty, you should not have to pay for anything ! Nothing !
      The actuators always get replaced when doing this job under warranty. The cost is way out of line. Sounds to me like they are trying to get you to pay for the whole job !

  37. oh no says:

    We just purchased a 2012 traverse on 12/31/12. It has 500 miles on it. It is at the dealership for the 2 nd time in 8 days. The check engine light is on. 1st time they said they reset something that it should go off after cranking it 7 times- Not. So, now they are saying the acuactor sensesor is bad. Will this require taking the engine out? Do u know if I can get my $ back? We can’t afford these problems on a brand new car.

    • DanO says:

      Well, the repair depends on what part is bad. With such low miles I would not think it serious. We would need the actual code number to be sure.
      No i don’t think it would be easy to try to get your money back. That is always a difficult process. A check engine light is not grounds for a buy-back.

  38. RockinRhonda says:

    I found your web site on Google while searching for a similar issue and your web site came up. I LOVE IT!I’ve also added it to favorites!

    I was about to swallow my heart when I got the codes from Auto Zone. – All the same ones mentioned in the article. I have a 2009 Acadia. I baby it with freqent, quality oil changes, but have a 120 mile commute daily to work. It now has 98,500 miles on it and it JUST started running funny yesterday so I went to Auto Zone for codes.

    A bit petrified right now….FINGERS CROSSED that I am one of the “most customers” covered in the 100K powertrain warrenty. A little confused because the warrenty states timing belts covered up to the first maintence interval – but I can’t find what that interval is in any of my documentation. Anyone have any ideas?

    • Mechanic-Dude says:

      Don’t worry. If you have all your oil change receipts, this is still under the factory 1100k powertrain warranty.

  39. Mtruck says:

    Hi there, I found your web site on Google while searching for a similar matter and your web site came up, it looks good. I’ve added it to favorites | added to my bookmarks.

  40. Alan LaRue says:

    My ’09 is in now for this repair. Had a check engine code last summer that was something about a delayed response from some sensor (can’t remember exactly). Took it in for the oil change interval recall, and the code never recurred.

    The two codes now are from the crank position sensor and one camshaft position sensor. Had it not been for the check engine light, I would not have known anything was wrong.

    The service writer told me that the mechanic who does this work has gotten really proficient at it!

    All in all, we’ve been very happy with the vehicle.

    • shrrmlls says:

      I am not sure how long ago you posted to this forum. Today is 10.5.2012 and the dealership has my 09 Traverse and is attempting to fix the camshaft. They called me yesterday asking if I had service records for all my oil changes because of excessive oil build up in the engine caused from lack of oil changes ( so they say). I always change my oil. wondering if you had any issues about oil build up on your 2009 when you had it repaired? I also see that oil build up is a known problem with this make and model. I am afraid of them voiding my warranty because of something that is a known issues. I am also worried about having more probs down the road, since replacing the camshaft effects so much of the car… let me know :) thanks

      • Robert says:

        If you have your receipts, then you are in the clear. Yes, oil buildup is a problem. GM even came up with a reprogramming of the oil life monitor so the light will come on sooner.

  41. dee says:

    do you have to line all the dots up on this engine before you remove chains? If not then why

    • Charles says:

      No, you do not have to line up the marks, since during the repair they will all be out of time anyway. You could do that thou, just to have everything close to the correct position. That may make it a little easier to line everything up.

  42. Harry says:

    My 2009 traverse is now in for the timing chains. 86,000, but had this vehical new with all kinds of electrical probelms. Car would look you out, all the guages went nuts, the cruise control would not disingage.

  43. Scott says:

    Mine is at the shop now to get this done. <3 yr, <36K mile. Not too impressed. Symptom was the check engine light. Had noticed the oil change interval has shortened quite a bit recently on the monitor. Found out today that last time in <1 yr ago they reprogrammed the ECM. Went from 10K oil change interval to 3K. Hmmm.

    • Frank says:

      Yes. There is a new program for the computer. GM found that the calculations for the oil change monitor system were incorrect causing the interval to be too large. They suspect that may have had something to do with the timing chains wearing out.

  44. jaber says:

    i want to watch how to chang timeing balt

    • Rick says:

      I have a junk 2007 Saturn Aura. This is the worst car I have ever owned. Replaced timing chain at 112,000 miles. I changed the oil every 5000 miles. You do not have to pull the motor. I did the job myself. GM is lying to everyone. I am buying a Honda Accord soon. I have owned GM cars all my life. Time for a change.